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My aim in working through these episodes is to help folks think through the church they attend, the leadership culture of their church, and, potentially, identify things that might not be apparent. I will not provide a “Monday morning play-by-play” critique. I hope you will gain personal insight through this review as well as applications to your teachers and the church you attend.
There are two main aspects of this podcast. One is our desire to believe in something, and the other is how to discern when someone is manipulating you. Mike asked it this way, “How do we know when our instinct for astonishment is being manipulated? Then he added, “When do we accept the claims that a person is speaking on God’s behalf, and when do we not?”
One of the interviewees said it more concisely: “I felt Mark had a power, and I was desperate for it.” She was desperate to believe, which positioned her for Mark Driscoll’s cruelties. I’m not suggesting it was her fault because we all default to trust; we want to believe in something outside of ourselves.
Defaulting to truth is how God made us. Would you prefer to default to cynicism, suspicions, and conspiracy theories? God wired you to have faith in something, which is a sane way to live your life. The problem is when others use our default to trust vulnerability for selfish purposes.
In the previous short story from CT, Mark shared about hearing from the Lord to plant churches, study the Bible, marry Grace (who became his future wife), and train young men. Someone asked, “How do you know it was from the Lord?” While mocking the questioner, Mark said it was from the Lord because of what “He asked him to do.” Satan would not tell him to do those good things.
If you believe in Satan telling you stuff, the devil might say those things to a man with a narcissistic ego like Mark Driscoll. If I were the devil and had insight into Mark’s character, I would want to motivate him to plant churches, study the Bible, and train young men because a person with such character flaws would wreak much havoc on the church.
“Hearing from the Lord” is subjective teaching that a lot of folks adhere to, and in most cases, there is no vetting of that “word from the Lord.” Because this teaching is subjective, it would be better to bring the discussion down to sublunary actors rather than position the problem as a power play between God and Satan about whose voice will command us.
In the charismatic world, you’ll hear a lot of, “I just got a word from the Lord.” Or, “The Father told me.” I do not believe this line of thinking, but it’s popular nonetheless. God has given us His Word, which is how we hear from God. However, I don’t think we should be so hardcore that we shut out the Spirit of God and the relationship we can have with Him.
Thus, there should be a discussion between being a cessationist and continuationist, and that literature is out there. But since we’re not going to settle our differences, and you probably have already made your decision about which camp is yours, a wise approach would be to discuss how to guard against statements made without weighing those proclamations.
When you connect a person who wants to believe with someone who wants loyal subjects, there can only be one outcome: broken lives. Here are ten things for your consideration when someone tells you they have heard from the Lord.
Rick launched the Life Over Coffee global training network in 2008 to bring hope and help for you and others by creating resources that spark conversations for transformation. His primary responsibilities are resource creation and leadership development, which he does through speaking, writing, podcasting, and educating.
In 1990 he earned a BA in Theology and, in 1991, a BS in Education. In 1993, he received his ordination into Christian ministry, and in 2000 he graduated with an MA in Counseling from The Master’s University. In 2006 he was recognized as a Fellow of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors (ACBC).